Friday, November 11, 2011

Are all state nations? What is the distinction between these concepts?

Are all state nations? What is the distinction between these concepts?


Are nation and state usually congruent? Does It matter?





Thank you.


|||Dictionary definitions of each word seem remarkably similar.The distinction if there is any is primarily a matter of either international law and/or political philosophy and then history.The terms are not IMHO congruent.





A "state" as understood throughout most of history is primarily a legal construct which describes a political and administrative entity : a politically unified people or peoples occupying a defined territory with a defined ethinicity or ethnic mix that the population is happy with."Politically unified" somehow incorporates the notion of "belonging" to more than your "tribe". I would also add that to be a "state" the entity we are discussing needs to be recognised as such by other "states".





The concept of a "nation" on the other hand seems historically to have depended more on ethnic parity and cohesion and adherence to a territory than formal legal structures or administrative processes.





The difference between the two concepts is best worked out by recalling the histories and characteristics of various groups throughout history.Were the Sioux ever a state or (just) a Nation.Why did England have to wait until Henry VIII to become a "Nation State" when William the Conqueror had effectively taken control as early as 1066.Were the Goths Vandals or Allans ever nations or just tribes.And so it goes.





Great Question. |||'ello. no, all states are not nations. a "nation" would be like, the Inuit in Canada, or the Native Amerians in America. Definition of nation: a group of people who identify with each other as a political community b/c of common territorial, cutlural, and other similar bonds. Definiton of state: an internationally recognized, politically organized, populated, geographical area that possesses a government and sovereignty. No, all states are NOT nations and vice versa...nowadays, countries are so varied in their populations that nation and state are not congruent. and yes, it matters. lol. |||The answer above is correct. Simply put, it is the difference between citizenship (given by a state, it can be changed) and nationality/ethnicity (can't be changed). You can be for example an Italian citizen, who is ethnically Chinese. And yes, it matters a lot for individuals, states and nations.|||Except for us, all states have sovereignty - therefore most states are nations, we aren't in America because we are 'United'|||plz answer mine


http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/ind鈥?/a>|||not the same thing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_stat鈥?/a>

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