There are so any verses that imply predestination, yet Christ commands us to preach the gospel to everyone. Also why is there a celebration in Heaven when someone gets saved, because if that person were predestined then s/he would be saved eventually?|||The gospel is to be preached to every creature (Mark 16:15). God has ordained the means of bringing His elect (predestined) to glory as well as the end.
God has not told us just who the elect (predestined) are and how they will be brought to repentance. He has decreed that we are to evangelize to everyone, in every way possible way (within the bounds He sets in His Word). Charles Spurgeon once said “if all the elect had a white stripe on their backs I would quit preaching and begin lifting shirt tails” (or something to that effect). God has not put a visible mark on the elect, so we are to treat all men as if they are among the elect, and are to share the Gospel far and wide. We need to share it with a sense of urgency.
Romans 10:14–15: “But how are they to call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, ‘How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news.’”
As God has not told us just who the elect (predestined) are, the gospel is to be proclaimed indiscriminately to all men, that all men are responsible to believe the gospel, and that God promises salvation to all who come in faith to Christ to receive it.|||"Predestination" is not as the calvinist defines it. Calvinism is wrong, and arminianism is wrong. The truth is that Biblical predestination is that God knows by foreknowledge who will believe, and their lives are predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son Jesus (read Romans 8 for details).
Put away all the vast volumes of "writings" from all these calvinist and arminian guys, and instead, open the Bible, and read John 3:16 :)|||we dont know who is predestined, and what part our witnessing will play, our mission never changes, go and preach the gospel|||There is a degree of predestination... but only in those that are CALLED. These are the born ministers, preachers and mentors of the congregation of Christ.
God pursues these people. But he desires a relationship with everyone. Thus the rejoicing... and the command to preach.|||"One plants, another waters, but God gives the increase"
We do not know who will come to know Jesus as Savior. We are given the great commission for several reasons...to obey, to develop our own faith, to see God work and therefore evidenced, all of which strengthens our own walk with God.
You are right that God does not "need" us for this...this is for us, not Him...and all that will come to know Him will come to know Him however He chooses to do that.
As for celebration? You have a birthday every year...you're never really "surprised", but that doesn't stop the celebration so your loved ones demonstrate their love and joy for you! It's a glorious thing when someone comes to know the Lord...something to celebrate for sure, and no one in Heaven is jaded, so that love and joy flows, along with the glory to God for His grace and mercy extended to a race so undeserving.
God bless!|||Jesus becoming Savior was predestined. no verse about a person getting saved talks about it being predestined for them to. .. that would take "free choice" out of it.
but being conformed to Christ after you get saved is predestined. because every truely born again believer wants to be like Jesus.|||Keep in mind that God sees time differently than we do, we do have free will however He knows how our lives will turn out and He knows if we will accept the sacrifice that Christ made or not. I do not believe that He has chosen some for saving and forsakes the rest.
We are actually privileged to be able to take part in God's plan to save people - He doesn't need us for anything however He uses us to tell people of the Good News of the Gospel and to share our testimonies in some cases as an example of how He can save even wretches like us.
I think the Angels rejoice because of the Sacrifice that Jesus Christ made for us - by us coming to Him, Jesus is reaping the reward for His sacrifice and that makes the angels rejoice.
Chuck Smith from Calvary Chapel wrote a good comparison of Calvinism vs Agrarianism and the Word of God. It gives a light presentation of all three with scripture references. It can be found at:
http://www.calvarychapeltoppenish.com/Ca…
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